From: | Andrew.Dickinson@CliffordChance.com |
To: | ken.oliphant@oeaw.ac.at |
Saiman@law.villanova.edu | |
obligations@uwo.ca | |
Date: | 02/11/2009 09:48:41 UTC |
Subject: | RE: outlandish torts |
Ken's reference to "pop torts", reminded me of
"Pop Tarts", which have also entered litigation folklore over here –
the filling (surprisingly) becomes hot when you toast them, and packets now
carry a warning of this.
See http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Pop-Tarts,
referring to a case brought by one Thomas Nangle and Texas A&M University
professor Joseph Delgado, apparently triggering further lawsuits.
Kind regards
Andrew
From: Ken Oliphant
[mailto:ken.oliphant@oeaw.ac.at]
Sent: 31 October 2009 18:22
To: Chaim Saiman; obligations@uwo.ca
Subject: RE: outlandish torts
In Britain, I'd say that the American "pop torts" are
seen as indictments of the common law of torts as a whole, and not as
peculiarly American. In public debate, there's often a total failure to note
that the cases come from another, rather different legal system (with jury
trials, as Chaim notes, including jury assessment of damages, plus considerably
greater scope for punitive damages, as well as contingency rather than
conditional fees). The "McDonald's coffee case" is treated as
emblematic of the ills of the system in Britain - and it's hardly ever
mentioned that there were McDonald's coffee cases in Britain too - which were
entirely unsuccessful.
Why
pop torts have become so much a part of political debate in Britain is an
interesting question. The UK doesn't have a tort reform movement with anything
like the clout of that in the US. Instead, the pop torts are worked into a
rather reactionary narrative about the decline of individual responsibility and
allegedly excessive "regulatory" intrusions on everyday life and
individual autonomy.
Elsewhere
in Europe - but certainly not everywhere else - I sense that outlandish tort
stories from the US are indeed dismissed as peculiar to the anglo-saxon world.
Best
wishes
Ken
From: Chaim Saiman
[mailto:Saiman@law.villanova.edu]
Sent: Fri 30/10/2009 8:42 PM
To: obligations@uwo.ca
Subject: outlandish torts
I have been following the emails of the past few days with some
interest, and note that most of the examples (real and otherwise) are taken
from the American context. Moreover, as one poster suggested, some of these
hoaxes may be part of a concerted effort by activists on the American scene to
paint a cartoonish picture of the American tort system in order to spur on
political efforts at tort reform (limitation)
My question to this largely non-American audience is whether,
from an international perspective, these sort s of suits are seen as uniquely
(or typically) American, and if so, is it only on account of the jury, or are
there other factors at work.
Would be interested in your thoughts.
--cs
Chaim Saiman
Associate Professor
Villanova Law School
610.519.3296
saiman@law.villanova.edu
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